Monday, May 24, 2010

Midnight Plane To Georgia?

So flights from Manston are currently banned after 11pm are they? Well what just woke me up at 12:50am then? A knackered old jumbo lumbering out after delivering another cargo of rotten bananas, that's what. Will the duffers at the council enforce the fine? Or will Councillor Baywatch just be receiving an extra large brarn envelope at Christmas? Kuh!

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Egyptair Airbus A300.
manufactured June 1990.
not old, not knackered, not a jumbo!

Anonymous said...

But illegal nonetheless.....

Plane spotter said...

Methinks this may be the thin end of the wedge? Doing it by the backdoor is another phrase that springs to mind. We must remain vigilant.

Lucy Mail said...

Oh yes indeedy. Doing it by the back door is a well established method of remaining virginal.

Anonymous said...

Flights aren't 'banned' they are restricted, no laws are being broken.

Rear view mirror said...

No photo ECR????

Richard Eastcliff said...

Sorry Rearend. Would have taken too long to assemble my night vision kit!

I wonder whose pocket the fine (if one is actually imposed) will go in?

Anonymous said...

Dear all

Being that it has a QC2 rating nothing will be done.

A meeting regarding the late night landings and take off's was offered under arbitration but the parties in question did not even respond.

If you look at the last quarter of KIA stats it makes for alarming reading in that TDC can do nothing...one only has to look at the time it has taken to deal with the 106 renegotiation.

Why a development officer is dealing with the 106 and night flights remains a very questionable arrangement by TDC.

Anonymous said...

Oh forgot one matter...yes Lucy (you gorgeous creature) it is a back door arrangement!!!!

The Rock said...

Living as I do on a route that seems to be favoured by many late night revelers on return from their preferred hostelry, my nights, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays, are often disturbed well after midnight. Loud voices, shouting, language distinctly obscene, occasional screams and odd unexplained crashes plus sounds of breaking glasses pierce the night silence. Next day one is oft greeted by the contents of someones guts right outside the front gate not to mention odd broken glasses, cans and more unspeakable items in the hedge.
What is perhaps even more alarming is that many of them pass my house en route to their parked up jalopies which they then rev madly before taking off with a resounding screech of tyres on tarmac.
And you lot complain about the odd plane. Fancy a swap?

Anonymous said...

No rock!!

I live in the same environment given to us by bad and lax development control at TDC.

The night time damage by drunks is endemic all around the core town centre of Ramsgate and up St Lukes the Jets just add to the poor quality of life mix. Cafe culture does not equate to quality of life issues!!!

Rock - believe me when I say there are problems with the complaints system and how the noise monitoring is controlled and assessed by TDC.

So back in your box Rock and do your own investigation.

Malcolm

Anonymous said...

the current Section 106 has holes Big enough to fly a jumbo through.

Perhaps ms sandys can put her money where he mouth is and call for a rework of the 106 which actually bans all night flights completely.

The current head of the airport working party is guilty of putting together a shoddy document back with planestation . He should have zero input on the next one.

Anonymous said...

TDC recently recalled the plan to put a wind turbine out by Marlowe Academy due to 'possible noise issues'. It would have been in the middle of nowhere! Yet they are prepared to allow planes to fly over 40,000 people in Ramsgate all night. What a bunch of counts (without the 'O').

Malaprop said...

This is a flagrant violation of our human rights. Why not take it to the European courts?

Bring back the death penalty I say.

Anonymous said...

Nothing's banned at Manston. Night flights used to be banned but the Council ripped up the nice clear legal agreement that previously existed in favour of the infinitely flexible Section 106 Agreement. If you read said document you find out that it precludes virtually nothing.

The Council doesn't want people to know that they've left the door open to 24hour operations and so they're holding a consultation to pretend that they are in control.

They had all of the the powers they needed to prevent what is to come, but were so desperate to hold hands with their new friends in the aviation industry that they gave it away for nothing (not even a handful of coloured beans).

puffinman said...

Anonymous Malaprop said...
"Bring back the death penalty I say."

Yes for selfish nobs like you.

The Rock said...

Malcolm,
Agree to a degree about TDC's contribution to the anti-social behaviour problem but sometimes have to wonder just where are the boys in blue. Having recently got nicked by a hand held camera for doing not a lot over 30 mph travelling in a convoy of school run folk, all at the same speed, at about about 8.30 a.m, just where are these alert officers when the inebriate are roaring off in their cars at 1 a.m. Perhaps us school run folk are a softer target!
As to the plane, well I do sympathise but my point was more on the greater frequency of the anti-social behaviour brigades' antics as against the odd night flight. Both, however, become annoying to those who have to suffer the noise and disturbance involved.

Anonymous said...

There is no difference between noise and disturbance whether it comes from planes, trains, yobs, greengrocers or big-mouthed Councillors. It's all noise and we should all be entitled to some level of protection.

Anonymous said...

5.13pm is spot on. The night time flying request from infratil in august is designed to kill off the last remaining sticky bit - the doubling of fines for operators who continuously fly the noisiest planes late at night.

Once that is out of the way, ecr will get properly shaken out of bed by real ancient flying machines, not hhe rose petal spouting airbus from last night.

Cunts.

Anonymous said...

I believe that every time a flight comes in late they have to make some sort of contribution to a fund that is then available for community good causes to apply for. This certainly used to be the case. For further info, if anyone is interested, I suggest that our good Mayor or his lovely wife would be a good starting point....

Lucy Mail said...

As I'm given to understand it, new legislation, that will be coming in to force in 2012, will exclude a lot of these older jets from flying in EU airspace.
So by the time that Infratil get their shit together and things finally 'take off', the noise issue will be a largely moot point, anyway.

I gleaned this info. from a pilot of one of these things, a few weeks ago, when he used it as an excuse for his erectile dysfunction.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, of course it was the Labour run TDC that 'negotiated' the 106 agreement... now we are stuck with it!

The Rock said...

Love it, 2:06, just stick the knife in whilst the bastards are down. Mind you, can't say I ever really agreed with politics in local government and would rather leave it all to the squire, the vicar and the smithy!

Richard Eastcliff said...

Ah yes, the good old days Mr Rock. At least the peasants knew who was doing what to whom as they nattered around the typhoid-infested village pump.

You could say I'm the modern day equivalent!

The Rock said...

Actually, Richard, I was thinking of Dibley where the parochial council seemed to reach mutually acceptable decisions ultimately. Locally, councils of whatever hue seldom seem to achieve such popular acclaim for the village fete, no indeed, they usually just cancel it leading to much muttering amongst the surfs. Maybe that should be Smurfs but then they are always blue!!!

Anonymous said...

Hi Rock, does TDC pay you for going round the blogs trying to make the debate bland and boring?

You clearly know b*gg*r all about the airport. TDC has well and truly shafted the populace.

It is absolutely true that it was the Labour group which drafted the disastrous Section 106 Agreement. Nicholson was the prime-mover.

However, I don't remember the Tories pointing out shortcomings of the document, which are now so blindingly obvious. In fact, my recollection is that 'EZ crew' weren't in favour of any restrictions at all; still aren't as far as I'm aware.

Anonymous said...

Typhoid was good for weeding out the weaklings, Richard.
I think it's YOU that thinks you're doing that. Certainly not me. I'd say you're encouraging them, if anything.

The Rock said...

5:04 what is your case? Did I mention the airport or claim any expertise about it. In a word 'No' yet I am boring. If I am it is eminently preferable to being boorish like you. I have no connection with or any axe to grind for TDC. I just enjoy the ridiculous (and sometimes funny) exchanges on this pages. Anyway, toodle pip, old bean, as I'm off to read the Daily Mail!

Anonymous said...

Rock, maybe this Daily Mail story appeals to you? Although this is probably much closer to the truth, & perhaps they should've done some research first...

The Rock said...

Missed that one, 11:38, but then that's newspapers. Anything for a story and what more emotive one than a kid in an England football shirt at World Cup Time. Not sure about the significance of the lady misappropriating vast sums from her benefactors. Maybe she was trying to raise enough to buy KIA. Now that is desperation for you!!
Anyway, all an interesting read so thanks for the links.

The Rock said...

Mystery solved, 11.38, for my research shows that someone moving from Wiltshire to North Staffordshire would find the local accent rather East European or even Polish. Bit like moving from Ramsgate to Margate!!

Borat said...

Yergshermersh!!

High Five!