tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post8958323255153201784..comments2023-12-21T00:14:07.455+00:00Comments on <center>EASTCLIFF RICHARD</center>: TwotRichard Eastcliffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10514972891192411470noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-67446167190713407042013-07-29T13:20:21.119+01:002013-07-29T13:20:21.119+01:00858 - it's required at manston but you switch ...858 - it's required at manston but you switch it off.<br /><br />Who was the fire cover - if you work at the airport you must have the shift details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-20974191762177374362013-07-29T11:45:39.957+01:002013-07-29T11:45:39.957+01:00You want names of staff on duty? You're becomi...You want names of staff on duty? You're becoming obsessed in my eyes...<br />The runway aligns with the main beach, so flying on the correct trajectory to land on the ILS will make it fly over there, not an incorrect one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-65080089756772654332013-07-29T10:52:18.071+01:002013-07-29T10:52:18.071+01:00Tut Tut. Rude. You were asked about the radar and ...Tut Tut. Rude. You were asked about the radar and why it's turned off?<br /><br />Also who was the fire cover on Sunday for the off-route planes.<br /><br />You claim you work at the airport so can answer these points and impress us that manston isn't some badly run Mickey Mouse outfit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-7092616620626153452013-07-28T20:58:20.210+01:002013-07-28T20:58:20.210+01:005.55 you clearly have no understanding of the UK a...5.55 you clearly have no understanding of the UK air traffic control network and when and where radar is required.<br /><br />You have been told repeatedly that fire cover is provided at Manston for all aircraft movements yet you persist with your nonsense. To what end and for what purpose. Everyone else can see you are an idiot so why can't you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-65041599518511771952013-07-28T17:55:16.317+01:002013-07-28T17:55:16.317+01:00If you had radar you obviously need it sowhy switc...If you had radar you obviously need it sowhy switch it off. Especially when it's minimal cost? Planes seem to turn up fairly randomly at Manston as well. 2 planes offroute today over the beaches and powerboat event?<br /><br />Who was at the airport for Customs etc? Who was the fire cover?<br /><br />Which major airports don't have radar if even Manston has it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-13366666250275532052013-07-27T09:47:10.107+01:002013-07-27T09:47:10.107+01:00Nice try Anon 2:16pm but you are wasting your time...Nice try Anon 2:16pm but you are wasting your time. The anti-Manston troll does not understand anything, either by choice or cell capacity, and anything you say will be twisted and used to support his ridiculous argument.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-47623194114970849872013-07-27T09:28:30.898+01:002013-07-27T09:28:30.898+01:00"Why would you turn off radar in the day and ..."Why would you turn off radar in the day and at night? It's only an electricity cost isn't it" No, you need someone to man it.<br />And there's nothing on radar then to monitor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-28002900323896028422013-07-27T09:23:15.478+01:002013-07-27T09:23:15.478+01:00THE AIRPORT DOESN'T NEED RADAR!!!!
Some of the...THE AIRPORT DOESN'T NEED RADAR!!!!<br />Some of the major airports in the airports don't even have it.<br />Other onboard electronic aids do the navigation and landing approaches etc. <br />Staff work a shift, it could be 8 hours, it could be 12, depends how it goes on the day<br />And as I keep saying, there is ALWAYS fire cover if the airport is open, either for a landing or take off. Whether for a single seater or a jumboAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-90672053125346418222013-07-26T15:50:38.013+01:002013-07-26T15:50:38.013+01:00Why would you turn off radar in the day and at nig...Why would you turn off radar in the day and at night? It's only an electricity cost isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-18051818173788703942013-07-26T15:49:26.286+01:002013-07-26T15:49:26.286+01:00Flexitime is different as that's changing days...Flexitime is different as that's changing days etc - what you're saying is even though workers are there the airport is "closed" ie they're waiting for planes, so they're not paid for being there?<br /><br />That sounds illegal doesn't it?<br /><br />You haven't mentioned about fire cover when planes were arriving at 3am? The fire crews couldn't have been there then?<br /><br />Who's on fire duty this weekend?<br /><br />Infratil made a big point of upgrading the radar but the radar isn't often used? Jumbo jets require radar don't they?<br /><br />It sounds a bit flimsy at best at Manston doesn't it? Do you get facemasks and gloves for handling fuel etc?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-15638678471170488762013-07-26T14:16:46.741+01:002013-07-26T14:16:46.741+01:00I am bored of going in to detail.., there are spli...I am bored of going in to detail.., there are split shifts ..<br />If the airport is open there is fire cover.<br />Class the staffs working hours as flexi-time.<br />The CAA monitors all this closely.<br />Radar can be closed in the day, not just after dark.<br />The airport doesn't need radar to be running, even an large jetliner can land without its sevice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-29742809046417037712013-07-26T13:19:54.419+01:002013-07-26T13:19:54.419+01:00So although staff are at work 7am to 11pm they'...So although staff are at work 7am to 11pm they're not paid for those hours?<br /><br />And there is no radar at Manston after dark?<br /><br />And fire cover 5pm to 11pm even if there are no scheduled flights?<br /><br />Cargolux aren't scheduled so there are occasional flights and at the weekend - but as before staff aren't paid?<br /><br />It sounds a strange situation where the promise of jobs is negligible and the jobs there are like gangers or piecework or zero hours ocntracts?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-6486185433937993672013-07-26T12:24:22.721+01:002013-07-26T12:24:22.721+01:00Staff don't go home, they're just resting ...Staff don't go home, they're just resting and therefore not 'on duty' in quiet times so hours in service don't count(working hours are limited, hence the closures to extend the opening hours).<br />No requirement for radar to land at Manston After coming off London radar service etc.<br />Open at weekends, for light aircraft plus any commercial traffic that is due.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-2333016541701774442013-07-26T11:14:48.371+01:002013-07-26T11:14:48.371+01:00If the airport closes for a few hours does everyon...If the airport closes for a few hours does everyone go home?<br /><br />Why does it stay open on a weekend (certainly before KLM) when there must be almost no flights?<br /><br />What's the approach service?<br /><br />So when planes were landing at night eg EgyptAir they were landing without radar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-8352263240416905752013-07-26T11:11:42.650+01:002013-07-26T11:11:42.650+01:00Airport can close for a few hours if nothing is du...Airport can close for a few hours if nothing is due in or out. <br />You don't need radar for all flights (light aircraft etc) so why have it manned and open? but there is always fire cover in opening hours and an approach service.<br />You don't seem to understand what's required.<br />You need to drive through and see the Cargolux etc aircraft on the deck, I assure you they do come.<br />The airport is open at weekends, there are commercial flights daily (KLM) plus cargo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-69185074283351248232013-07-26T10:26:19.946+01:002013-07-26T10:26:19.946+01:0020M passengers though according to Buchanan and th...20M passengers though according to Buchanan and the Gazette today and only a billion quid or so to upgrade the railway.<br /><br />And by 2050 or maybe never. And definitely no night flights either, maybe, possibly.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-48696504916378865582013-07-26T10:23:34.465+01:002013-07-26T10:23:34.465+01:00Crikey 9:03 - the radar is not manned?
So planes ...Crikey 9:03 - the radar is not manned?<br /><br />So planes are flying in blind on the wrong routes?<br /><br />Fire cover was removed after 5pm (how do we check it's in place now?) - and you say the airport closes for a few hours during the day now? How does that work?<br /><br />KLM stats: c.two-thirds empty is not good.<br /><br />What are the Cargolux flight times? It only seems to be on a Thursday or Friday and occasionally a Sunday?<br /><br />Does the airport close at the weekend as there are no flights?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-43419948917128687142013-07-25T21:06:01.376+01:002013-07-25T21:06:01.376+01:00Oh, Cargolux:
Mon, Tues, Thurs and Fri .. weeklyOh, Cargolux:<br />Mon, Tues, Thurs and Fri .. weeklyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-25648654273790926732013-07-25T21:03:27.212+01:002013-07-25T21:03:27.212+01:00Radar is not always manned, if not, approach servi...Radar is not always manned, if not, approach service is available and radar isn't a requirement, one or other is available in opening hours. If fire cover ever was closed at 5, no aircraft would have taken off after.<br />Even nowadays the airfield will close for a few hours if the airport was open early or is required to stay open later.<br />There is always fire cover when the airport is open.<br />Most Recent Stats from CAA:<br />Amsterdam route had 3,731 passengers in June, which comes to a 38.9 % load factor.<br />Previous load factors - May was 40.7 % and April was 34 %Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-3602937734445115502013-07-25T14:31:13.956+01:002013-07-25T14:31:13.956+01:00Zero passengers on Cargolux and few on KLM. Mansto...Zero passengers on Cargolux and few on KLM. Manston isn't exactly a boon to the Thanet economy. Close it down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-51051366980288579682013-07-25T13:22:41.493+01:002013-07-25T13:22:41.493+01:00ACG doesn't say it's been taken over - it&...ACG doesn't say it's been taken over - it's gone bust. I mean declared insolvency which is completely different to going bust. <br /><br />Yet another failed airline at Manston not paying its fines?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-17354781376688428522013-07-25T12:49:31.002+01:002013-07-25T12:49:31.002+01:00Thanks 12:25 can you give us a bit of detail thoug...Thanks 12:25 can you give us a bit of detail though?<br /><br />Was fire cover stopped after 5pm? How is it handled for weekends? Flights after 11pm?<br /><br />As a rule of thumb, what's your view on passenger numbers: i presume at least half empty?<br /><br />When do Cargolux fly in - I understood once a week on Thursday? - and ACG etc now don't? <br /><br />How many flights are required to validate the radar/operating licence etc etc?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-58150235872297860552013-07-25T12:25:33.187+01:002013-07-25T12:25:33.187+01:00Another Manston employee here ..yes there is fire ...Another Manston employee here ..yes there is fire cover for all flights<br /><br />The CAA publish figures for all routes. You'll have to work out the average yourself by using the number of pax per period, number of flights, seats per Fokker 70 and period of times quoted in the figures.<br /><br />ACG were taken over, CLX still fly in several times a weekAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-67548031721579431952013-07-25T11:25:40.928+01:002013-07-25T11:25:40.928+01:00Well nothing much there to have a chuckle at, 11:1...Well nothing much there to have a chuckle at, 11:17, and well below the usual standards of nonsense you come up with. Just have to look around the other blogs for a laugh though it should not be difficult. No doubt Rick will be saving the world from some dastardly plot over on Bignews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-71085654788548514192013-07-25T11:17:17.263+01:002013-07-25T11:17:17.263+01:00Thicko6:23 seems to be a regular.
Obviously noth...Thicko6:23 seems to be a regular. <br /><br />Obviously nothing much happening at Manston<br /><br />And nothing worth bothering to reply to.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com