tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post1901959754894994635..comments2023-12-21T00:14:07.455+00:00Comments on <center>EASTCLIFF RICHARD</center>: Tesco FiascoRichard Eastcliffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10514972891192411470noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-9245345176095226702010-07-21T13:26:13.255+01:002010-07-21T13:26:13.255+01:00I've just noticed that the car park at Arlingt...I've just noticed that the car park at Arlington House has been cordoned off for renovation / demolition (as has the Arcadian Hotel).Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-37242224048074570532010-07-08T11:42:33.276+01:002010-07-08T11:42:33.276+01:00I doubt very much if the people who come and shop ...I doubt very much if the people who come and shop at Tesco Arlington will do anything other than drive there, buy what they want, then drive home again. A Tesco on this site will polarise the two ends of the town even more, with the middle losing out.<br /><br />Sad to say that Primark is the only thing attracting shoppers to the high street these days. Tesco, which will be like a mini WC on the town's doorstep, will undercut Primark, and offer free parking too. Once they've shooed Primark away the high street, which is already in its death throes, will finally peg it. Then Tesco will put their prices up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-71224260182691672062010-07-07T15:59:13.214+01:002010-07-07T15:59:13.214+01:00If Tesco are made to pay to tidy up the exterior o...If Tesco are made to pay to tidy up the exterior of Arlington House and retain residents parking then I think its fine however if there is no benefit to Arlington residents or the community then whats the point.<br /><br />The scheme, as many have pointed out will probably bankrupt most of the residents in Arlington House, which seems unfair and will still leave all the boarded up shops along the seafront.<br /><br />TDC are weak so no doubt they have already given Tesco the nod that they will get permission. So we will be left with a Tesco, boarded up shops and amusement arcades on the seafront and some rubbish theme park with old rides. Great, can see everyone flocking to Margate in their thousands.<br /><br />The while situation is a joke and TDC need to actually do something about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-41025640450328422652010-07-06T23:28:54.501+01:002010-07-06T23:28:54.501+01:00I strongly suspect that it will attract more of th...I strongly suspect that it will attract more of the shoppers that use Westwood Cross than distract those that shop in Primark. So at least it will be bringing shoppers to Margate...& I'm sure some will walk 5 minutes away into town while they're here, just as Tesco shoppers do a similar thing at WC!Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-85260156646193667542010-07-06T22:03:43.530+01:002010-07-06T22:03:43.530+01:00This just draws more people away from Margate cent...This just draws more people away from Margate centre. And will be the final death of Margate High st, and it will loose any remaining retailers. Do any of TDC's Town planners actually walk around our town centres and grasp the fragility. It is very evident ONCE outside the front door of TDC HQ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-21667385940763625542010-07-06T10:33:34.781+01:002010-07-06T10:33:34.781+01:00My point is 10:11 / 9:53 that even your worst case...My point is 10:11 / 9:53 that even your worst case scenario will be an improvement on what's already there. At least the building will look good again & we'll have people shopping at this end of Margate (& I find it hard to believe that other businesses won't want to start using the derelict shops once this happens).Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-11384183170098757942010-07-06T09:54:31.630+01:002010-07-06T09:54:31.630+01:00Is the planning brief published? Is it on the TDC ...Is the planning brief published? Is it on the TDC site? does anyone have a link?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-82098448100553803332010-07-06T09:53:21.595+01:002010-07-06T09:53:21.595+01:00or realist?or realist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-9824317717467093332010-07-05T22:23:34.454+01:002010-07-05T22:23:34.454+01:00Pessimist!Pessimist!Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-20659780268706919712010-07-05T22:11:27.245+01:002010-07-05T22:11:27.245+01:00Thanet District Council published a "Planning...Thanet District Council published a "Planning Brief" laying down requirements to be met by any development of the Arlington site.<br />Freshwater have completely ignored it and the council have the options of either enforcing it or looking like irrelevant idiots.<br />What looks most likely is that Tesco will be built, Arlington residents will lose their car park and have to pay £17000 plus per flat - and the derelict shops will just be left to deteriorate even more.ArlingtonResidentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-76220546729849304512010-07-03T13:48:25.013+01:002010-07-03T13:48:25.013+01:00The inescapable fact about Tesk is that people flo...The inescapable fact about Tesk is that people flock there in millions to shop. It's convenient, cheapish and the customer service is pretty good. Yeh, it is raping the environment and perpetuating animal cruelty and it's employment terms are pretty harsh but customers don't seem to give a rats about that stuff.<br />The majority in Margit will almost certainly want it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-71423933008607416822010-07-03T11:06:07.592+01:002010-07-03T11:06:07.592+01:00Peter is right, no-one seems to be offering a bett...Peter is right, no-one seems to be offering a better alternative & ANYTHING is better that what's there now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-80252029702847321732010-07-03T10:06:08.671+01:002010-07-03T10:06:08.671+01:00There seems to be confusion between what Tescos an...There seems to be confusion between what Tescos an Freshwater are actually proposing and what people would like them to do.<br /><br />Freshwater will hand over the residents parking to Tesco. Residents won't have a say on this. <br /><br />The residents will lose their spacious marble and glass entrance and be re-routed to a smaller new entrance. The original one looks a bit like those you see in Milan or Madrid, designed to inspire and attract buyers. The new one will be more suited to the asylum seeker/benefit claimer image the building has acquired. Residents won't have a say on this.<br /><br />Freshwater could refurb the tower, installing double glazing (maybe) The entire bill would be charged to residents (Tesco are not offering to pay. The result will b that residents could lose their homes.<br /><br />Freshwater/Tesco are proposing to board up the entire parade of shops. So the existing shops will have to go and there will probably be some kind of illustration on the hoarding. It could be pics of inspired shoppers and the odd vegetable, as you have in the Westwood Tesco store windows, or they could do a "community thing" such as blowing up pictures drawn by local children- no one can complain about that.<br /><br />There is an outline plan for a hotel and new shopping arcade, but that is just an outline plan. Anyone could submit a plan. There are no investors, no one is offering to contribute, The development of the seafront and parade of shops is just an idea and should not be seen as an incentive to have a superstore round the back, because it has nothing to do with it. <br /><br />There are many ways the site could be developed to benefit residents, visitors and the town in general, but the players seem to be Tescos, Freshwater, and Godden, so we can't expect much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-77246434153787643632010-07-02T09:35:30.474+01:002010-07-02T09:35:30.474+01:00I'm glad there's no more Pedalo's, the...I'm glad there's no more Pedalo's, the foreign perverts!!!Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-73327224391513380372010-07-01T23:58:16.894+01:002010-07-01T23:58:16.894+01:00After shopping at Tesco's the punters could us...After shopping at Tesco's the punters could use their clubcard points up at the Turner bunker or on Tesco Pedalo's. Now where did they go?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-37677801818302245642010-07-01T15:53:47.753+01:002010-07-01T15:53:47.753+01:00Anon 3:23, I'll ask you the same question I as...Anon 3:23, I'll ask you the same question I asked Michael: Do you think Arlington House & its "shops" would be better off just staying the way they are then?<br /><br />Unfortunately no-one seems to be offering anything better.Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-83655597400102183182010-07-01T15:23:11.156+01:002010-07-01T15:23:11.156+01:00TDC mad a big mistake leasing the land for next to...TDC mad a big mistake leasing the land for next to nothing and giving planning permission for Arlington House, but now it is here and we have to take it a a piece of the town's history. <br /><br />Tesco on the other hand is a mistake that can be avoided.<br /><br />After sucking the town dry with Westwood Cross, they now move in for the kill, clearing out the few remaining businesses on the High Street and. Cheep cameras will get rid of the camera shop, some tools might push Goodwins over the edge... Something for everybody.<br /><br />Then there is the issue of what their future plans will be. Tesco Towns is the new thing, As one of the biggest land owners, Tesco is moving into building house, and there is some prime land to build on around there. The Idea of relying on Gimmy Gee and and Tesco to develop the centre of our town is a bit scary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-15272232953165950352010-07-01T13:53:24.466+01:002010-07-01T13:53:24.466+01:00Haha, could be anon 1:29! I agree totally that we...Haha, could be anon 1:29! I agree totally that we'd be better off getting rid of it, but that's unlikely to happen (see <a href="http://birchington.blogspot.com/2007/06/land-before-time.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> what the place used to look like).Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-42861241114112359362010-07-01T13:29:35.694+01:002010-07-01T13:29:35.694+01:00Well i am one of those numbnuts who does think its...Well i am one of those numbnuts who does think its a blot on the landscape of Margate Richard.<br />I work in a 16 story concrete brutalist tower (International Press Centre) and it is fine in central London, but since moving to Westbrook i can see why Turner raved about the big skies of Margate - problem is you step out of the station and first thing you see as you look to the beach and harbour is this carbunkle. <br />I say knock it down, redevelop the land with lo rise smaller supermarket, purchse flats from the owners, redevlop the old guest houses to the West of Margate ... well (before it turns into Cliftonville mark 2) and sell at a discount to the Arlington House folks. <br />Peter, new businesses have opened in Westbrook - two grow your own "horticularist" shops, catering to the home grower. Any connection to the number of Police busts lately??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-55974306796465995892010-07-01T01:53:19.023+01:002010-07-01T01:53:19.023+01:00anon again!
Now.... if TESCO would take over the H...anon again!<br />Now.... if TESCO would take over the High Street....<br />I would have nothing to crab about, but people are right...<br />booze n bogs is all the daytrippers want, and there are plenty of other local businesses capable of offering up these. Sandwiches and Fish n Chips too.<br /><br />There we are, all organised, and no Doc's in sight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-61902449115334177502010-06-30T21:25:34.430+01:002010-06-30T21:25:34.430+01:00I thought it had all gone quiet on this front, I a...I thought it had all gone quiet on this front, I am sure a few more stores in Westbrook will go soon. I can remember enquiring about the cost of a shop in Westbrook several years ago and the Rates charged were astronomic so I hope the council charge Tesco pro-rata because they scared me away.Don Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099505939055955603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-39621806090753917842010-06-30T21:10:43.802+01:002010-06-30T21:10:43.802+01:00Oh I have little doubt that this would be profitab...Oh I have little doubt that this would be profitable for them, as there's so little to compete with it: The only real competition in Margate would be Morrisons, there's nothing much in Westbrook, & even the Spars in Westgate & Birchington have recently changed to Co-Ops (with much reduced range & higher prices). But if it can win back all the customers who currently shop in the WC Tesco then surely it can only be good for Margate...Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-8536661770440676912010-06-30T20:03:16.513+01:002010-06-30T20:03:16.513+01:00Not really Peter, in fact I don’t really know what...Not really Peter, in fact I don’t really know what to make of Tesco’s intentions here, frankly it isn’t easy to see it as the most suitable site in terms of benefits to Margate or Tesco.<br /><br />The plans appear to be for a 60,000 square foot store with parking for 350 cars, this is pretty substantial and will obviously have effects both on the town centre and the main leisure beach, quite what those effects would be I am not sure of.<br /><br />My belief is that Tesco regret losing their site in the middle of Ramsgate, but once again I am mystified by the site of their new store here.<br /><br />I really only have the damage that they have done to the local area, in terms of our towns being an environment for human beings, to go on.<br /><br />I suppose that there may be something in the premise that without a real town centre there is a way in which Margate can now be viewed as a very large housing estate by the sea – some very nice architecture, a somewhat naïve approach to the benefits of “culture” and a bizarre approach to leisure facilities – but nonetheless developing all of the problems associated with a very large housing estate. Perhaps there is a way that Tesco, with their private police force and their marketing strategy feel that being central to this would be profitable, for them.Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-33601042902411932522010-06-30T17:37:25.916+01:002010-06-30T17:37:25.916+01:00Michael, do you think Arlington House & its &q...Michael, do you think Arlington House & its "shops" would be better off just staying the way they are then?Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20691138.post-31068166831630950092010-06-30T16:31:36.274+01:002010-06-30T16:31:36.274+01:00Forgive me I do not normally swear on these blogs ...Forgive me I do not normally swear on these blogs but in my humble opinion Tesco are fucking parasites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com